Casey Anthony

Jun 15, 2011 1:17 am Detail View
mason said: Dear Dr Drew,What interests me is I grew up in a satanic cult. I have been through a lot. I have been in a fight for my life. What I am saying is I have been 23 times hospital visits. And I got the most respect for those workers, However. What I se possibly is ritual abuse in the case of Casey Anthony. All the things I see here makes me wonder if that happened there As a survival tachnigue she split into various personality? to deal with the possibly abuse ??? Every alarm in me shouts did. I have been around other multible, lots of survival from all kinds of abuse survivers!!! I know the deeper abuse goes, the more need for medical intervention. There is something about this case that just needs to come to the surface and blow the whole case wide open. Thank you for your time!!!

Jul 6, 2:01 pm
swansend replied to mason : Agreed!!!! I see so many similarities to Jon Bonet Ramsey and so many others its not even a conspiracy at this point. I believe that if you are NOT involved in SRA some way then you will get railroaded by the so called justice system. Then if you are involved in Satanic Ritual Abuse you get off!

Jun 14, 2011 12:29 am Detail View
Debby said: What happened to the topic of. Casey. In an intervievu with the police saying she had a problem meth ,

What happened to that.

Jun 11, 2011 8:25 pm Detail View
KBcat said: What did you and your guests find so funny last night, while discussing the Caylee Anthony case? Switching hats with Lenoard Padilia.I really think you have a very calming effect on everyone,
but last night your attitude really surprised me. There is nothing funny about this case. An innocent child was murdered!!!!!, and switching hats, was unimportant,and laughter at this time, in my opinion, was not appropriate.
Sheila Raftery
Indialantic, FL

Jun 15, 1:41 pm
Law hound replied to KBcat : Lighten up!! Casey herself cracks up in the court room every now and then. If she can laugh why can't anybody eles?? She is the one on trial

Jun 10, 2011 10:10 am Detail View
Lovedrdrew said: I am very pleased to see one professional, Dr. Drew, who at least is willing to listen to the other side of the story, and not make judgements against Casey until all the evidence is in. He has not said she is innocent. He has not said anyone is guilty either. He just has his doubts, and is willing to listen to evidence against George. The testimony from George's ex is convincing to me that George is indeed a pathological liar, and has taught Casey to be the same. Lie, and get out of the situation. Remember George did tell Casey she was in complete control of the "situation"! She was in JAIL! Even Casey knew this was not true! Her reply was "I am not anymore", like a little girl.
These words from George's mouth to Casey's ears speak volumes to me. At what other time did he tell (little girl Casey) that she was in complete control of the situation, and could "stop it at anytime" (this brought tears to Casey)
I think JMO, that George did have incestuous relations with Casey, and taught her to lie and cover up and promised her love and protection, etc. I also think that he might have the same plans for the baby, and when Casey saw this, she freaked. (jealous?...she was supposed to be the special one!) I also think Cindy knew about everything and decided to pretend she did not know just like she DID not know Casey was pregnant! (Impossible, since she was a nurse)
I think GA is a dark predator, and if only the truth were known, there would be a lot more "issues"

Jun 9, 2011 10:59 pm Detail View
lodel said: Here is my take...in every lie there is some truth, in all fantasies there is reality. George is the one that tried suicide, why? Did he actually have something to do with Caylee's disappearance? Casey stated her Dad was the one who found Caylee drowned..ie., did he find Caylee on the ground by the sand box (dog hit on it for decomposition). Casey seeing him went off (remember the jail house tape where she goes off stating "no-one is listening to her"?). If in fact George did sexually abuse Casey...that would be enough blackmail to make him keep quite and help her dispose of the body. There was not any hits on the computer stating how to destroy evidence of reason of death. George being a former police officer would know to put the body in water would destroy the evidence. The body was supposedly in the water and was not found (the 2nd time) until the water had receded. I believe the family knows more than they are telling.

Jun 9, 2011 10:19 pm Detail View
lisa said: Casey Anthony is not a crystal meth user. That is upsurd! She is a murderer.

Jun 9, 2011 2:54 am Detail View
Not Moses said: Personality theory is almost always the place forensic psycologists go for their ammunition. Listen; I enjoy Clarkin, Cleckley, Hare, Kelly, Livesley, Meloy, Millon and Mike Stone as much as anyone, but my principle difficulty with all of them is that they describe an end result without very much edification of where the result came from.

For that, I've gone to a combination of anthropology, sociology and psychodynamic, as well as behavioral, cognitive and even neuro- psychology. And as a result, I tend to cringe when "experts" like this make such pronouncements to the un-edified masses.

CA didn't just wake up one day and start going as nuts as she ultimately seems to have become. Moreover, she presents a stack of behaviors commonly seen in the complex post-traumatic stress disorder (and borderline personality disorder) regularly seen in females her age who were repeatedly incested and threatened with extreme harm (or death) if they ever told on the perpetrator. I'd venture to say that there are at least a hundred women like this at Chino and Chowchilla.

Miller, Russell and Herman started making noises about this in the '70s. Kluft and Putnam described the links between incest and borderlinism in the 1980s. Van der Kolk -- probably the leading authority on childhood trauma alive today -- read Janet's recently translated work from the 1890s and made more noise in the =19=90s. And in this decade, the heaps of research available from Wiley and Elsevier make it clear that all of those mentioned in this paragraph have been barking up the right tree.

Surprisingly to many, Freud himself had been barking up that tree in 1896... but when he found himself facing a quiet but powerful lynch mob in Vienna, he recanted.

Call me whatever you wish, but because I have seen so many of CA's traits in those known to have been serial-incested, and because I see indicators in the family member's behavior that at least suggests the possibilities, it does seem possible that CA's screwy behavior before and after the death of her daughter may have roots in her own life at just about the time =she= was two years old.

And here's one major reason why: If I have seen this once, I have seen it 20 times: The young mother who was incested and threatened into dissociative denial of her memories usually cannot stand to see her own "self" in her own innocent, vulnerable child. The image of her own self right there in front of her is just too much to take. Many serial-incested mothers abandon, ignore, abuse or even batter their children to try to keep the memories of their own abuse from creeping into consciousness.

I don't "know" that CA did precisely =this=, of course. But my experience in dealing with such people over the past two decades tells me it needs to be considered.

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Jun 15, 3:10 pm
foggyworld replied to Not Moses : In simple English, we are obviously looking at a very "dysfunctional family." And the problem is given the way our legal system works, rarely if ever in cases like this do thorough pscychological tests and evaluations go on. In this case I am intentionally using the plural.

All of the members of that family are proven liars so it is quite likely that we will never know the dynamics that went on under that roof. The prosecution doesn't want to know and the defense doesn't have the funding to do their job.

What surprised me the most frankly is the lack of forensic evidence put on the record. I doubt if Casey Anthony had the smarts to cover her tracks so well in this time of very all encompassing science. So on that basis alone, I don't see how a juror could find her guilty of murder. If lying is in the charges presented, they could get her on that but that's it.

She has a father who has cheated even during this time of sorrow for normal folks and a mother who comes across as far from sweet and loving. She seems to have forced Casey's pregnancy to term and that all by itself is horrendous in the PTS it can cause. It's fine to mouth "I love you" while in a televised court room but that sort of love can kill and most likely did.

But I agree with you that this case is the culmunation of a family gone awry and frankly no court in the land could ever get to the truth because that is one thing the Anthony family abhors. But more than one of them is involved obviously and what if Florida which rushes to the death penalty executes the wrong apple from that tree?

The only hope really is that a highly respected, investigative reporter with an understanding of family dynamics and sociology spends the years it would take to uncover what really happened.

And thank you for providing your sources because it gives me other places to look for a better understanding of what I feel in my gut and see on television is not all that unusual in today's America. To quote Yeats, "things fall apart [if] the center cannot hold.

Jun 8, 2011 3:48 pm Detail View
Jo said: I think Casey Anthony murdered her daugther and is trying to frame her father since he is most likely the last person to see Caylee alive other than her mother. She studied and planned but unfortunately she kept the child in the trunk of the car - a big blunder for her. Also, her many immagery friends - another big blunder. Her parents, I believe, are culpable from the standpoint that they may very well be hiding information that would further implicate their dauther - so they look like true enablers, etc. I can empathize with the parents - my husband and I helped out our teenage daughter during the first several years after she had her child. Casey is a self-absorbed psychopath who tired of being a parent. I'm sure she was angry on many occasions when her parents refused to babysit at her every whim. I'm sure she was jealous of her friends and the freedoms they exhibited since they didn't have children of their own - so they could go out and have fun most anytime they wanted. Casey couldn't do that - poor girl!!!!!!!! I have no sympathy for her at all. I hope she gets life imprisonment and I hope her parents come to fully understand and let go of a child gone bad. All parents have faults but I just don't go along with the "dysfuntional" implications. I think the parents tried their best to help their daughter in the early years of parenthood but this girl just didn't want to be responsible. I'm sure that 'pissed' Casey to no end. Lots of teenage parents try to throw their own parents under the bus and try to make it their fault they got pregnant out of wedlock and had a child. Life's not fair - is it? It's just horrible to think how anyone could murder a child let alone their own. Casey is a pyschopath pure and simple.

Jun 10, 1:37 am
User4634 replied to Jo : I agree with you, Parents do their best but Spoiled children like to blame anyway.

Jun 8, 2011 1:37 am Detail View
LULU said: I ALSO HAVE A THOUGHT THAT CASEY APPEARS ALMOST TO BE HYPNOTISED...CERTAIN WORDS TRIGGER NO EXPRESSION....AND GEORGE..WHY DID HE LEAVE POLICE WORK...THERE IS HARDLY ANY TOUCHING COMFORTING BETWEEN CINDY AND GEORGE..PERHAPS GEORGE HAD MOVED THE BODY HIMSELF SEVERAL TIMES...AT CINDYS BROTHERS WEDDING...WAS GEORGE THERE ? AND WHY WOULD THEY ALL BE SO CONCERNED THAT SHE WAS..BUT DEFINATLY NOT ACCORDING TO CINDY...BUT ACTUALLY WAS...CINDY KNEW WHAT GEORGE WAS DOING...IT ALL IS SOOOOO MUCH TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND....THE LITTLE GIRL WAS NOT SHOWN RESPECT//THEY DID NOT DESERVE TO HAVE HER...WHY DIDNT SOMEONE INTERVIENE ????

Jun 15, 3:13 pm
foggyworld replied to LULU : I suspect we will see a divocre filed for soon after this trial ends. Those two are not happy campers - which may lie at the root of the entire murder.

Jun 8, 2011 12:20 am Detail View
Taz3487 said: You know that George and Cindy were lying from the beginning not noticing that their 7 month prego daughter isn't pregnant. I'm sorry 7 months pregnant is noticeable in most women. Very few people still look the same as if not. I feel she is guilty in not reporting, but I don't believe that she killed her daughter. The state's case is really hard to believe since they covered up the report of finding the remains of Caylee earlier in the year if this is really true on the defenses behalf. What Casey claims sounds more reasonable. And in reality most mothers that lose a child deny that they are really gone. Many women have been heard of holding newborns for hours and days in disbelief. I know I don't understand what she is going through. But it was dramatic enough that she completely forgot her daughter. Making up lies to cover her shame. Something bad happened and that whole family knows and its protecting George and Cindy.